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Shroud responds to PewDiePie calling him out over video reactions

Published: 12/Jan/2019 12:49 Updated: 12/Jan/2019 16:38

by Calum Patterson


In his latest video about streamers abusing copyright strikes on YouTube videos, PewDiePie used an example of Twitch streamer Michael ‘shroud’ Grzesiek watching one his videos.

PewDiePie was making the point that although many streamers will strike YouTube channels which use their content, streamers often react to YouTube videos on stream with no repercussions.

Reactionary videos and streams are permitted under fair use, but the system in place on YouTube is often exploited, with PewDiePie giving examples of Twitch streamers like Pokimane, Alinity and others.

After showing a clip of shroud ‘reacting’ to a PewDiePie video, with very muted reactions to showcase just how non transformative Twitch reactions often are, shroud inevitably discovered he had featured in a PewDiePie video.

So, in a bizarre case of shroud reacting to PewDiePie reacting to shroud reacting to PewDiePie, the streamer was overjoyed to see he featured in a video on the most subscribed YouTube channel.

PewDiePie did make clear that he wasn’t trying to ‘call out’ shroud for watching his video on stream – but did call him out for not being subscribed, which shroud quickly rectified.

“I got you” shroud says as he hits subscribe, “I was subscribed on my seven other accounts”. PewDiePie is currently locked in a battle to keep his top spot on YouTube against T-Series, so every little helps.

PewDiePie goes on to explain that it is hypocritical for streamers to file copyright claims, when the majority of content on Twitch is “not original”, claiming that even gameplay and commentary uses the work of someone else (game developers). 

You can watch PewDiePie’s full video below.


Shroud claims Twitch streamers should “unite” to overturn DMCA rules

Published: 25/Oct/2020 3:59 Updated: 25/Oct/2020 4:44

by Alex Tsiaoussidis


Michael ‘shroud’ Grzesiek has claimed streamers should have taken a “united front” on the new DMCA rules to try and force Twitch to overturn them, and “could have won” if they did, after thousands of streamers deleted their old VODs to avoid being taken down, some dating back nearly a decade.

Twitch has ramped up its efforts in cracking down on streamers using licensed music. Streamers around the world have been rattled and rocked after receiving DMCA takedown notifications, with a massive wave sweeping across the platform on October 20.

It happened because most streamers play music in their streams, which means it’s also included in their library of video clips and VODs.

It’s a controversial issue that has happened in the past, but the latest ‘DMCA Bloodbath’ has been the biggest one yet. Hundreds of partnered streamers have been forced to take down and delete years worth of content, and it’s sparked a lot of outrage from streamers and viewers alike.

Michael ‘shroud’ Grzesiek mulled over the issue in his latest stream, and he came to the conclusion that streamers didn’t play their cards right. He believes they should have taken a “united front” on the issue and “hurt themselves” by not doing it sooner.

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Shroud believes Twitch streamers needed to be on a “united front” to tackle the DMCA crackdown.

The first point shroud made was that, even if streamers obtained a license to skirt around the DMCA issues and play music on their stream, it wouldn’t solve the issue. 

“If I was to get a license to play music on my stream, Twitch would not know,” he said. “Therefore, their Twitch music… algorithm that mutes VODs would still mute my VOD even though… I legally can do it.”

“So even getting a license right now doesn’t matter,” he added. “Because… you’re still going to get cucked.”

Shroud went on to describe the whole situation as “strange” because playing in silence for a moment.  Then, he had another flurry of thoughts, which brought him to his final point that streamers should have been more united.

“If we as streamers took a united front and we didn’t just make rational f**king decisions and just start deleting sh*t, we actually could have won,” he said. “But now we hurt ourselves, so that sucks, but it is what it is. We folded. We’re a bunch of bi*ches.”

Shroud is referring to the fact that practically every streamer has been outraged by the decision. However, they ultimately succumbed to Twitch’s demands and deleted their VODS to avoid potential issues.

Many people will believe his frustration is warranted. However, at the same time, nobody can really blame other streamers for adhering to Twitch’s demands. After all, their livelihood depends on it.

The key takeaway, however, is that streamers could take shroud’s opinion on board in the future. If anything, partnered streamers are all pillars in the community. It couldn’t hurt for them to unite on matters when they really have to.

At the end of the day, workers in the ‘real world’ have associations, bodies, and unions to support them. So why should it be any different for streamers?