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Apex Legends pro Dizzy reveals surprising weapons tier list

Published: 21/Feb/2019 1:01 Updated: 7/Mar/2019 5:34

by Wyatt Donigan

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As Apex Legends starts to settle into a comfortable meta following the game’s release on February 4, pro players are beginning to decide which weapons are the best and which ones need some major work.

As is the case with every battle royale game, there are a diverse set of weapons to choose from in Apex Legends. From sniper rifles and pistols to shotguns and assault rifles, there is something in the game for just about every playstyle. 

That being said, however, there are some weapons that stand head and shoulders above the rest and some that are just plain bad (we’re looking at you, Mozambique).

As such, NRG Esports’ Coby ‘dizzy’ Meadows has released his first official weapons tier list, and it features some surprising selections.

If you’ve seen any of dizzy’s gameplay, you’d know that he really fancies using the Wingman. Somewhat surprisingly, however, he’s listed it as the best weapon in the entire game.

NRG Esports/TwitterDizzy’s first official Apex Legends weapon tier list includes some interesting rankings.
  • S-Tier: Wingman, Mastiff, Kraber 
  • A-Tier: Spitfire, Flatline, Peacekeeper, EVA-8, R-99
  • B-Tier: G7 Scout, Longbow, Devotion, Hemlok, Prowler, R-301
  • C-Tier: Alternator, RE-45, Triple Take 
  • F-Tier: P2020, Mozambique

While many might agree that it’s incredibly good, the fact that he put it above the Mastiff and Kraber, the only two legendary weapons currently in the game, might come as a shock to some.

Elsewhere in his list, Dizzy puts the EVA-8 right behind the Peacekeeper, another somewhat surprising ranking given how strong many feel the Peacekeeper is at the moment.

Rounding out his A-Tier are the Spitfire, Flatline, and R-99, which are all widely accepted as some of the best weapons in the game.

To the surprise of just about no one, the Mozambique is one of just two weapons to fall into the dreaded F-Tier, joined by the P2020.

Apex Legends WikiThe Peacekeeper is seen by many as one of the best guns in the game.

Dizzy might have been the first pro player to release an official tier list, but surely many more will follow suit very soon as the Apex Legends meta continues to develop. 

With Apex Legends yet to receive a major balance patch at this point in its short lifespan, there’s no telling what the meta will look like once that patch over the next few weeks.

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Apex Legends dev explains why “useless” Wattson won’t get more buffs

Published: 26/Nov/2020 5:27 Updated: 26/Nov/2020 5:29

by Isaac McIntyre

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Bad news Wattson fans… Respawn has no plans to buff the Apex Legends engineer again in Season 7, despite the fact much of the battle royale’s player base believes the Static Defender is “useless” in her current state.

Wattson who has been part of the ever-growing Apex Legends roster since mid-2019, was recently handed a buff in Season 7’s ‘Ascension’ patch; her signature ability, “Perimeter Security,” had its damage topped up slightly.

According to the Apex Legends community, however, the French defender is still relatively “useless” in the Season 7 meta. In fact, the view is so widespread that a Reddit thread simply titled “Buff Wattson please” racked up 15.1k upvotes, and more than 125 awards.

In the thread, ‘BaguettePaquette’ declared: “It’s time to radically remake Wattson. Not just +5 to fences, but the whole concept of a ‘defending legend’.”

Unfortunately, when an Apex Legends dev did finally arrive in the thread, it was to deliver bad news: there are no plans to give Wattson more buffs in Season 7, despite the defender’s low pick rate in public playlists and ranked lobbies.

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Wattson has been dubbed “useless” by the wider Apex Legends player base.

Wattson isn’t “useless,” says Apex dev

The reason, game designer Daniel Z. Klein explained, is twofold. The first is that Wattson is “all over the place” in pro play. According to the dev, who “rewound the final game,” four of the final six squads in ALGS finals included a Wattson.

The second was a rebuttal to the Reddit thread’s suggestion Wattson is “useless,” both on new map Olympus, and in all Apex Legends lobbies.

“I’m going to respectfully disagree… on Olympus, or elsewhere. You’re confusing two things; pick rate and effectiveness,” Klein said. “Yes, she’s lowest pick rate, but her win rate is very good. She’s is top 4 across most power metrics.”

The “fun” problem: why no one plays Wattson

The problem, he continued, is that Wattson “isn’t super fun for most people.” Her abilities are based around holding choke points, which Apex Legends players often shy away from.

“[That] means we can’t just put power into her until she’s more widely played, because she’s already very near the top of our power charts; on the other hand, it means that putting power into her won’t address the problem either,” he said.

“It’s not that people pick her and fail to be effective. Clearly the people who do run her have more success than on most other characters. There’s something about the FEELING of playing her that isn’t attractive, and power doesn’t fix that.”

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The French defender is powerful, but fails to be “fun” in public lobbies.

Rework may be one possible solution

So, no more Wattson buffs in Season 7, especially as she continues to hit top scores on many of Respawn’s hidden metrics. A rework though? That’s another story.

“Your suggestion for a rework is most promising,” Klein admitted, but said there are two issues there; the cost ⁠— “reworks are incredibly expensive” ⁠— and two, she already fills an area “very needed” in competitive play: defensive strengths.

“I don’t think she should be 100% or near 100% pick rate in competitive… ideally we find a rework that makes at least part of her kit exciting in the moment, while not losing her identity as a structure giver,” the Apex developer concluded.

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Mirage (pictured) and Lifeline have both got reworks; could Wattson be next?

There was a glimmer of hope for fans of the French defender, however. Klein admitted he “could be convinced to buff her” in an effort to “throw a bone to Wattson mains,” but promised that “wouldn’t change the problems.”

For now, Wattson mains should hold tight. There’s a rework in the pipes that may eventually land, and more buffs are possible; it may just take a bit of begging!