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Deadmau5 mocks Twitch streamers in heated argument with PUBG player

Published: 22/Oct/2019 16:34 Updated: 22/Oct/2019 18:06

by Michael Gwilliam


PUBG player Grizz got into a heated exchange with Canadian musician Joel ‘Deadmau5’ Zimmerman after the artist called Twitch streamer beggars during a discussion on tipping in restaurants. 

During the middle of a round in PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds on Saturday, October 19, Twitch streamer Grizz and Deadmau5 started talking about restaurants, tips and the minimum wage. 

In North America, restaurants pay their employees lower than the minimum wage because tips make up for the difference, something Grizz said he believed was “bulls**t”.

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“Like, who made up tipping? What the f**k,” Grizz joked.

“This is so ironic coming from a couple of f**king streamers who f**king ebeg for five bucks,” Deadmau5 clapped back. “Get the f**k out of here with that.”

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“Ebeg?” Grizz gasped, causing the Canadian music producer to mock the streamer’s early comments.

“Oh god, who invented tipping? That’s so lame. It’s like they’re entitled to it or something. Like and subscribe, kids,” he mocked in a song-song tone.

Just as the argument was beginning to resemble a debate about tipping from the classic film Reservoir Dogs, the two players went their separate ways.

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However, Grizz was able to reengage with the artist a few minutes later by driving a vehicle over him in an act of friendly fire. 

“Oh okay, I see how it is,” Deadmau laughed. “He’s a little butthurt.”

“I didn’t see you there at all,” Grizz responded before attempting to restart the convo where they left off. While the artist didn’t want to talk about tipping again, the streamer kept pushing him and began to debate whether he wanted to or not.

After restating his point about restaurants paying employees less because of tips, the artist instantly remarked, “I can’t imagine the outcry when Twitch starts taking more.” 

“You were so off-base and insulting,” Grizz replied. “I don’t know how you can even say that.” 

“Come on, dude. Grow a pair,” the Zimmerman chimed.

Grizz went on to explain how streamers don’t ask for tips and when he first started he never asked people to do anything. To this, Deadmau5 suggested that by that logic, neither did anyone who worked at a restaurant.

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Eventually, the conversation turned into whether or not restaurants actually paid employees minimum wage with the Canadian insisting that they did and Grizz saying the opposite. 

According to the United States Department of Labor, “An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least the Federal minimum wage.” 

It was quite a bizarre discussion that nearly turned ugly, but luckily cooler heads prevailed. 


DragonForce’s Herman Li banned from Twitch amid DMCA drama

Published: 27/Oct/2020 13:36 Updated: 27/Oct/2020 13:50

by Lauren Bergin


Popular music streamer and DragonForce guitarist Herman Li has had his Twitch account banned on October 27, with the reason still unknown.

In a shock move, Twitch has suspended popular musician Herman Li from streaming on the platform, which he uses to provide insight into the life of professional musicians, as well as to shred his guitar like the metal God that he is.

Known for being the lead guitarist of Grammy-winning heavy rock group DragonForce – the masterminds behind the infamous ‘Through the Fire and Flames’ that dominated every Guitar Hero players’ childhood, Li has been praised over the years for his musical talents.

The guitarist has become somewhat of an icon on the platform, so it shocked fans to see his channel was no longer available.

Li has become not only a DragonForce icon, but a Twitch one too.

Is this a DMCA ban?

At the time of writing, the reason for Li’s ban is unknown. Twitch does not comment on moderation decisions as a matter of privacy.

Speculation though, is that the artist has been banned as part of the new wave of DMCA strikes that have been sweeping across Twitch. As a musical streamer, DMCA makes the lives of musicians particularly difficult. Many have and may be banned in the future due to these new regulations – even if they are playing their own music.

In April, Li was livid as Universal muted his music on YouTube.

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Neither Li nor Twitch have elaborated on why the ban has taken place. No matter the reason though, this news comes will come as a shock to both Li and his fans, especially when he addressed the Twitch ban situation directly on stream back in June, reassuring other streamers that using his band’s music would not result in a DMCA strike.

Li stated that: “We know all these crazy things are happening on Twitch, people getting banned, people getting taken down, DMCA, I can tell you, you can play any song from the latest DragonForce album, Extreme Power Metal, and you will not get a strike. I assure you, you will be ok. Because we are very good friends with our people from the record label, who also love Twitch, so you will not have a problem.”

We will update this story if more details on the reason behind Li’s suspension become clear.