Niantic outline spawn changes in Pokemon Go

Published: 13/Dec/2019 10:31

by Paul Cot


Spawn changes in Pokemon Go were reported all the way back on September 25 and now, it appears Niantic have finally confirmed as much.

Nearly three months after significant changes were noticed, Niantic have outlined changes to spawns although a lot of specifics remain omitted. “Trainers may now encounter Pokemon in more places than before,” the official Pokemon Go blog states.

Trainers will be well aware that some places were more densely populated with Pokemon than others. “In these places, Pokemon should now be more spread out. This migration of Pokemon has nearly doubled the number of locations where Pokemon can be found in the wild around the world.”

The result of this is trainers may see more Pokemon spawn in locations where few did beforehand. There may also be new spawn points.

A win for rural players

These changes have produced mixed results for trainers. With the addition of new spawn points and alterations to spawns which saw lots of Pokemon pop up at once, it seems rural players have had the better of the changes. Meanwhile, urban players, who are used to large pockets of spawns in specific locations, have been left a little disappointed.

Rural players are used to having to travel miles out of their way to be able to play Pokemon Go and this issue was even raised on our “Top 5 ways Niantic can improve Pokemon Go” article.

Spawns more spread around towns

Elsewhere, experienced trainers will have learnt where Pokemon spawn in their local area and often plan their Pokemon Go playing time around them. However, with these changes appearing to have been in place for some time, a lot of trainers will have already rethought their routes to compensate for this.

The reports were initially confirmed by Niantic in a tweet on their NianticHelp account. “We’re always looking for new ways to optimize the Pokemon GO experience for Trainers. To this end, we’ve recently updated where Pokemon can be encountered. We strive to improve with every change and thank you for your feedback. Stay tuned for more details.”

What has changed?

While Niantic are still rather vague on the details, Pokemon Go Hub have been able to confirm the following:

  • Spawns have changed globally. We haven’t seen any confirmed reports that a specific area was skipped or ignored. It’s a sweeping change throughout the whole system.
  • Spawn points were added to places with higher in-game and cellular activity than previously recorded, especially in parks and non-residential areas (many reports)
  • Spawns were removed or reduced from areas where Pokemon were overpopulated in respect to the player count (multiple reports)
  • Some spawn clusters were reduced, while others were doubled. We are not sure why this happened, but most new cluster spawns come in the shape of 4 (or multiples of 4) Pokémon
  • It seems like S2 cell activity (a mathematical mechanism that helps computers translate Earth’s spherical 3D shape into 2D geometry) is still very much influential to the process of creating spawn points, but it’s hard to estimate how exactly that activity is calculated.
  • We’ve observed a peculiar phenomena where new PokeStops “draw” spawns from neighboring residential areas closer to the PokeStop location. It’s far too early to confirm it, but we’ve heard anecdotal reports from other players as well
  • Correlating spawns with Ingress Prime XM still works and proves to be the only “exact” visualization of potential spawn zones.
@SparkieJoy/@RizingPhoenix38Rural players are loving Pokemon Go’s spawn changes…

Niantic can’t please all trainers

A lot of rural players will have little sympathy for urban players and the fact they may see less species as a result of the changes. One Pokemon Go player was particuarly thrilled and even shared a Reddit post about it: “Ok, so it doesn’t mean anything to anyone but me, but after over two YEARS!! I finally got wild spawns at my house in BFE within the last hour. Maybe I missed some big news about an event or something, but it was a nice surprise when insomnia is keeping me awake. I went to clean out my pokemon storage and do a bit of organizing, and imagine my surprise when three moms were waiting for me!”

Unsurprisingly though, this was met with negativity from urban players. “New spawn system is unacceptable and must be reworked. They should not be removing large amounts of spawn points,” j1mb0 said in another Reddit post. Thankfully in the months since the update that this latest posts seems to refer to, any outrage about the changes has somewhat subsided.

Niantic have the unenviable task of pleasing a massive fan-base in their Pokemon Go players, and while this is an almost impossible task, they appear to have taken a big step in at least appeasing their rural community.

If you were to read feedback online regarding the changes, you’d think the spawns are a lot worse now. Some will argue the changes weren’t an improvement but it will always appear worse than it is as players are more likely to go to a forum or social media to post criticism than applaud the changes. Regardless, Niantic’s latest update may be an indication that those changes are here to stay.


What are Therian Formes in Pokemon Go? Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus forms explained

Published: 23/Feb/2021 22:09

by Brent Koepp


Niantic is bringing Therian Formes to Pokemon Go with The Season of Legends event in March. But what is it exactly? Here’s everything you need to know about the special new forms for Gen V Legendary ‘mon Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

Pokemon Go’s upcoming Season of Legends is kicking off with the Forces of Nature trio, which are the Legendary ‘mon introduced in Black and White for the Nintendo DS. The weather-based Legendaries will get their very own Special Research starting in March.

Excitingly, the three characters’ secondary Therian Formes will also finally make their debut in the mobile title. However, Trainers unfamiliar with Gen V may be scratching their heads over what they are exactly. Below, we will explain everything you need to know about the transformations.

Screenshot of Forces of Nature Legendaries in Pokemon Go.
Niantic / The Pokemon Company
Pokemon Go will get Therian Formes with Season of Legends in March 2021.

What are Therian Formes in Pokemon?

A neat feature included in Pokemon Black and White was an extensive weather and seasonal system. To take advantage of this, developer Game Freak introduced three Legendaries known as the Forces of Nature – Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus – who actually roamed around the overworld based on the atmospheric conditions.

In 2012’s Black and White 2, it was revealed the trio in the first game were in their “Incarnate Forme” and in the sequel they had new set called “Therian Formes.” The secondary transformation not only changed how the ‘mon looked physically, but also the way their stats functioned in the meta.

The alternative form could be triggered by players using the “Reveal Glass.” The Legendaries’ ability to switch between their two versions, made them a nightmare in VGC competitions – as they became extremely powerful in their versatility. This is also what makes it so exciting that the feature is making its debut in Pokemon Go.

Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus Therian Formes explained

The most important thing to know about Therian is that it changes the Forces of Nature trio’s stats in a few interesting ways. Below we will list each Pokemon’s stat in their Incarnate (regular) form vs their secondary to give you an idea of how they are being changed.

Screenshot of Pokemon Legendary Tornadus Incarnate and Therian Formes.
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Tornadus’ Incarnate (left) and Therian (right) Formes.

Tornadus Incarnate

  • HP: 79
  • Attack: 115
  • Defense: 70
  • Sp. Attack: 125
  • Sp. Defense: 80
  • Speed: 111
  • Total: 580

Tornadus Therian

  • HP: 79
  • Attack: 100
  • Defense: 80
  • Sp. Attack: 110
  • Sp. Defense: 90
  • Speed: 121
  • Total: 580

With Tornadus, we see the Flying-type lower its Attack and Special Attack by 15 points in Therian, however its Speed is boosted by 10. Its Defense and Special Defense also get a bump. The monster sacrifices attack for quickness.

Screenshot of Pokemon Legendary Thundurus Incarnate & Therian Formes.
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Thundurus’ Incarnate (left) and Therian (right) Formes.

Thundurus Incarnate

  • HP: 79
  • Attack: 115
  • Defense: 70
  • Sp. Attack: 125
  • Sp. Defense: 80
  • Speed: 111
  • Total: 580

Thundurus Therian

  • HP: 79
  • Attack: 105
  • Defense: 70
  • Sp. Attack: 145
  • Sp. Defense: 80
  • Speed: 101
  • Total: 580

Whereas Tornadus became much quicker, Thundurus’ Special Attack gets a substantial increase of 20 points in Therian. The ‘mon sacrifices its Speed and Attack by 10 points, but becomes a heavy hitter with special moves.

Screenshot of Legendary Pokemon Landorus Incarnate and Therian Formes.
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Landorus’ Incarnate (left) and Therian (right) Formes.

Landorus Incarnate

  • HP: 89
  • Attack: 125
  • Defense: 90
  • Sp. Attack: 115
  • Sp. Defense:  80
  • Speed: 101
  • Total: 600

Landorus Therian

  • HP: 89
  • Attack: 145
  • Defense: 90
  • Sp. Attack: 105
  • Sp. Defense: 80
  • Speed: 91
  • Total: 600

Lastly, Landorus sees a major 20 point boost in Attack with its Therian transformation, though at the cost of its Special Attack and Speed. The Ground/ Flying-type packs the greatest punch out of the Legendary Trio.

Screenshot of Legendary Therian Formes.
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Go players can get their hands on Therian Formes in Go this March.

Pokemon Go players will be able to get their hands on Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus’ Therian Formes starting this March. Their transformations will help kick off the Season of Legends, which will run for a total of three months.

Ever since the Forces of Nature debuted their secondary forms in 2012, they have become top tier picks in competitive battles. So it will be interesting to see how the Black and White 2 feature will shake up the mobile title’s Battle League meta.