N0tail hits back at Doublelift's claim that Dota 2 is easier than LoL - Dexerto

N0tail hits back at Doublelift’s claim that Dota 2 is easier than LoL

Published: 24/Dec/2019 23:59 Updated: 25/Dec/2019 0:07

by Andrew Amos


Two-time The International champion Johan ‘N0tail’ Sundstein has denied Yiliang ‘Doublelift’ Peng’s claim that Dota 2 is easier than League of Legends, saying that he “sh*tstomped” his “first and only” League games.

The communities of League of Legends and Dota 2 have been at war for the better part of the decade. Players of the two biggest MOBAs in the world claim their respective game is superior to the other, with both communities often laying cheap shots against one another.

The debate between the two came to a head on December 23 when star Team Liquid AD carry Doublelift claimed that Dota 2 was easier than League. He laid into Dota by saying “there’s 0% chance that dota 2 has a higher mechanical skill ceiling than League.”

ValveN0tail has hit back at Doublelift’s comments about Dota, roasting how easy League is.

“[It has] turn speed, built-in lag, not a lot of skill shots, dashes, or mobility. You do have more buttons, but they’re targeted so you don’t often need to display a high level of mechanical ability. It’s all game knowledge – meanwhile, League is really mechanically intensive.”

Doublelift also admitted that he’s played a bit of the game to back up his comments, saying that his eight years of playing allowed him to “stomp every pick-up-game” thanks to his game knowledge.

However, N0tail has hit back, saying that League is boring and un-interactive. “If on average pro games have 4-5 kills in 30 minutes, what are the critical objectives,” he asked.

“Is it like a mega extended laning phase where it’s all about last hits and harass?”

N0tail does have a point, given how vastly different League and Dota play out in the early game. League has a very passive laning phase, focused on not dying and scaling until your item breakpoints, while Dota is action right off the bat.

The two-time The International champion also claimed that he found League easy, saying that “I too went into my first and only League games and sh*tstomped them.”

However, N0tail offered a truce. He decided to invite some players from the other side to sit down, have a chat about their respective games, and maybe settle the debate.

ValveDoublelift might have the bigger mouth, but N0tail has the trophies.

“Ceb and I meet up with two achieved and well-spoken LoL players, discuss the pros and cons of each of our respective scenes, and follow-up with an in-depth discussion on our game’s differences,” he said.

Doublelift himself has a fair few accomplishments in League of Legends under his belt, including an MSI finals appearance and seven LCS titles, and would make for a perfect candidate for said podcast. 

Players like Luka ‘Perkz’ Perkovic and Rasmus ‘Caps’ Winther would also make perfect candidates, with the MSI 2019 champions and Worlds 2019 runners-up being two of the most accomplished League players in the Western world.

Regardless of which game requires more skill, N0tail stated that at the end of the day, it’s up to what you enjoy. “Obviously both games are great, curious to which aspects are harder,” he said.

While such a discussion is unlikely to put the Dota vs. League rivalry to bed once and for all, it could help bridge the gap between the two communities. Otherwise, all it would do it make the divide bigger, and the rivalry fiercier, and maybe that’s what the two player bases want.


Dota 2’s Newbee banned from all Valve events after match-fixing scandal

Published: 3/Jan/2021 11:04

by Joe Craven


Chinese esports organization Newbee, and its entire Dota 2 roster, have been permanently banned from all Valve competitions, following a match-fixing controversy from May 2020. 

Newbee is one of China’s better-known esports organizations, particularly when it comes to Dota 2. Established in 2014, the team has accumulated over $13,000,000 in total earnings – mostly in part thanks to Dota2’s TI.

Back in May, Newbee was plunged into one of the biggest controversies in Chinese esports history, after their entire roster was implicated in a match-fixing scandal.

The team, consisting of Xu ‘Moogy’ Han, Yin ‘AQ’ Rui, Wen ‘Wizard’ Lipeng, Yan ‘Waixi’ Chao, and Zeng ‘Faith’ Hongda, was found to have been match-fixing in a number of competitions, including the China Dota 2 Pro League Season 2 and DPL-CDA Professional League Season 1. 

Moogy from Dota 2
Moogy is one of the Newbee roster implicated in the match-fixing scandal.

After the scandal came to light back in May 2020, the team was promptly banned from all events organized by ImbaTV, Mars Media, and CDA. They were also immediately disqualified from the aforementioned leagues in which the fixed matches took place.

Following the revelations and tournament bans, many fans were waiting for further bans, particularly from Valve sanctioned event, as well as Perfect World. Both came in early 2021, with the news being confirmed that the organization and all 5 players implicated have been permanently banned from Valve events. That includes The International, which Newbee won back in 2014.

Dota2 confirmed the bans on their official Weibo account. The following screenshot is a translation.

Dota2 on Weibo
Confirmation of the bans on Dota2’s Weibo account.

Dota 2 insider ‘Wykrhm Reddy’ also confirmed the news on January 3, stating that the reason is match-fixing.

The news did not come as a major surprise, but many fans were disappointed with the confirmation given the stardom of some players, particularly Faith and Moogy.

Following on from the controversy, Newbee parted company with AQ, Wizard and Waixi in August of 2020. None of them have officially found a new roster.

For the time being, Faith and Moogy remain on Newbee’s roster but, with indefinite bans pretty much across the board now, it looks like their time competing in Dota 2 is nigh on over.