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CSGO pros slam divisive Vertigo, call for Valve to rethink “unfair” map

Published: 18/Dec/2019 0:53

by Isaac McIntyre

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A handful of Counter-Strike stars have lifted the lid on what they like least about the game’s current state, including the “unfair” nature of divisive map Vertigo, the powerful Kreig, and the game’s notoriously slow mobility.

It’s no secret that plenty of CSGO professionals don’t always see eye-to-eye with the game’s developers Valve, especially with the recent drama around the over-tuned nature of the SG 553, more commonly known as the Krieg.

In a new video released by ESL, several stars, including Marcelo ‘coldzera’ David, Finn ‘karrigan’ Andersen, and Ian ‘motm’ Hardy, took aim at their least favorite parts of the title where they ply their trade, including Vertigo and the game’s mobility.

ValvePlenty of CSGO stars, including coldzera and motm, have called for Valve to ‘rethink’ Vertigo in the competitive map pool.

Coldzera, who holds the ignominious title of being the first-ever pro player to fall off the skyscraper map at a competitive LAN event, was one of the most outspoken stars when it came to abolishing Vertigo, suggesting it’s “too random.”

“The map pool should definitely be changed, I’m not satisfied by the map pool at the moment, and I think they should remove Vertigo,” he said.

“I don’t know why they keep Vertigo. They had a few changes to the map, but it’s just too random. Things are random. Teams just play aggressive, re-peeking a lot, because no one knows how to play the map really correctly right now.”

The Brazilian superstar suggested Valve could bring other, more popular maps into the fold if they shunted the incomplete Rizzleton Tower map from the pro scene.

“They have so many good maps likes Cobblestone and Cache, and they’re not being in it, so I think that the map needs to be removed [to allow others in],” he added.

ESLcoldzera believes Cobblestone or Cache would be better options for the pro map pool.

Coldzera wasn’t the only pro that aimed their sights at Vertigo for changes, with ATK’s motm also suggesting the high-flying map could use a few more tweaks to make it more balanced for the team playing as Counter-Terrorists.

“I feel like they need to change Vertigo, because the A-side just feels really unfair for CTs, because if the Ts just take the bomb site they [CTs] have to retake their one choke point and it’s really hard to flank on A-side Vertigo,” he explained.

Vertigo wasn’t the only thing the stars were interested in seeing changed either, with newly-minted Renegades star Oliver ‘DickStacy’ Tierney suggesting the game could add a prone feature, which would be “f**king hilarious” and “a lot of fun.”

Patrick ‘es3tag’ Hansen also joined in on mobility suggestions, though Heroic’s rifler said he was more interested in seeing the pace of the game “upped” just a bit, partially because he thinks it would change the skill gap between players.

“I would love for there to be more movement, if Valve put up the acceleration ⁠— not too much because we don’t want to be as fast-paced as like Call of Duty ⁠— then that would be nice, a lot of players would be punished for it,” the Dane said.

For mobile readers, the related segment in the video below begins at 0:29.

Finally, mousesports star Karrigan, who has enjoyed a pile of success in recent times with his European lineup, including at the ESL Pro League finals, and more recently with two fill-ins against G2 Esports, returned the conversation to the Krieg.

According to the CSGO veteran, despite a recent November update returning the SG 553 to its original price point of $3,000, up from $2,750, the Krieg is still just too much of an influence on the game’s current competitive meta.

“It’s too much… I would get Valve to change the Krieg a little, and I think I’m not the only player who is saying that either,” he said.

ValveKarrigan doesn’t think the Krieg has improved much since it’s November nerfs.

Whether or not Valve will listen to these ideas from some of the biggest names in the game right now remains to be seen, but it is interesting to hear the pro’s opinions on common issues that many CSGO players agree upon heading into 2020.

And who knows, once the devs hear so many players calling for changes, maybe they’ll take a second look. We may have to cross our fingers, though, and hope they don’t listen to DickStacy’s wacky idea and add ‘prone’ to the game.

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How to watch Flashpoint Season 2: stream, schedule, teams

Published: 29/Nov/2020 1:00 Updated: 29/Nov/2020 1:37

by Bill Cooney

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Organizers have revealed the new schedule for Flashpoint Season 2, which will see teams competing for the largest CSGO prize pool of 2020 at $1 million.

The competition has been held completely online since March, due to the ongoing concern surrounding the global health situation, and that will continue for Season 2 as well.

This tournament venture between B Site Inc. and FACEIT kicks off its second season on November 10, 2020, with participating teams and the schedule released in the days leading up to the start.

So, let’s take a look at which teams are playing when, and how you can catch all the action.

Flashpoint Season 2 matches
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Opening matches for Flashpoint Season 2.

Stream

The matches will all be streamed on FLASHPOINT’s Twitch channel, and with no in-person attendance and all games being held completely remotely, this will be the only way to watch the matches.

Participating teams

Group A

  • Fnatic
  • c0ntact
  • Dignitas
  • MAD Lions

Group B

  • BIG
  • Team Envy
  • forZe
  • MIBR

Group C

  • OG
  • Cloud9
  • Gen.G
  • Virtus.Pro

Duncan ‘Thorin’ Shields, who is participating in the leadership of FLASHPOINT’s creative direction, has predicted Group C will definitely be the one to watch, with OG (who are favored by many to win it all) and potential dark horses Cloud9 battling it out, along with Virtus.Pro in the mix as well, who finally seem to be getting in the swing of online play.

In Group B, BIG emerges as a clear favorite, but Thorin added “there will be heavy competition for the second-best team.” Finally, all eyes in Group A will be focused on taking down MAD Lions, who came out on top in first place following Flashpoint Season 1.

Flashpoint Season 2
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How Flashpoints Season 2 will work, from Group stages all the way to the Grand Final.

Flashpoint Season 2 format & schedule

FLASHPOINT Season 2 will start off with a Group Stage where 12 teams will compete in three different Groups. The top two teams in each group will automatically qualify for the Playoffs.

Teams who finish 7th-10th will compete in Last Chance matches for the final two Playoff berths. Flashpoint’s Playoffs will consist of an 8 team, double-elimination bracket.

Flashpoint Season 2 final placements

Placement Team Prize Money Blast Points
1 TBD $500,000 3000
2 TBD $250,000 1500
3 TBD $100,000 1125
4 TBD $50,000 750
5-6 TBD $35,000 375
5-6 TBD $35,000 375
7-8 TBD $15,000 188
7-8 TBD $15,000 188
9-10 Gen.G $0 0
9-10 forZe $0 0
11-12 c0ntact $0 0
11-12 Cloud9 $0 0

Flashpoint Season 2 playoffs schedule

Monday, November 30

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Upper Bracket QF MAD Lions vs Virtus.pro 5AM 8AM 1PM
Upper Bracket QF BIG vs Envy 8AM 11AM 4PM

Tuesday, December 1

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Upper Bracket QF Fnatic vs Dignitas 5AM 8AM 1PM
Upper Bracket QF OG vs MIBR 8AM 11AM 4PM

Wednesday, December 2

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Lower Bracket Round 1 TBD vs TBD 5AM 8AM 1PM
Lower Bracket Round 1 TBD vs TBD 8AM 11AM 4PM

Thursday, December 3

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Upper Bracket SF TBD vs TBD 5AM 8AM 1PM
Upper Bracket SF TBD vs TBD 8AM 11AM 4PM

Friday, December 4

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Lower Bracket Round 2 TBD vs TBD 5AM 8AM 1PM
Lower Bracket Round 2 TBD vs TBD 8AM 11AM 4PM

Saturday, December 5

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Upper Bracket Final TBD vs TBD 5AM 8AM 1PM
Lower Bracket Round 3 TBD vs TBD 8AM 11AM 4PM

Sunday, December 6

Stage Match PT ET GMT
Lower Bracket Final TBD vs TBD 5AM 8AM 1PM
Grand Final TBD vs TBD 8AM 11AM 4PM

Flashpoint Season 2 groups results

Tuesday, November 10

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group A UB Round 1 Dignitas 0 – 2 MAD Lions 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group A UB Round 1 Fnatic 2 – 1 c0ntact 8AM 11AM 4PM

Wednesday, November 11

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group B UB Round 1 Envy 1 – 2 forZe 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group B UB Round 1 BIG 2 – 1 MIBR 8AM 11AM 4PM

Thursday, November 12

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group C UB Round 1 Cloud9 0 – 2 Virtus.pro 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group C UB Round 1 OG 0 – 2 Gen.G 8AM 11AM 4PM

Friday, November 13

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group B UB Final forZe 0 – 2 BIG 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group B LBRound 1 Envy 1 – 2 MIBR 8AM 11AM 4PM

Saturday, November 14

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group A UB Final Fnatic 1 – 2 MAD Lions 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group A LB Round 1 c0ntact 1 – 2 Dignitas 9:30AM 12:30PM 5:30PM

Sunday, November 15

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group C UB Final Virtus.pro 2 – 1 Gen.G 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group C LB Round 1 Cloud9 0 – 2 OG 8AM 11AM 4PM

Thursday, November 19

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group A LB Final Fnatic 2 – 0 Dignitas 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group B LB Final forZe 0 – 2 MIBR 8AM 11AM 4PM

Friday, November 20

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group C LB Final Gen.G 0 – 2 OG 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group A Grand Final MAD Lions 0 – 2 Fnatic 8AM 11AM 4PM

Saturday, November 21

Group Match PT ET GMT
Group B Grand Final BIG 2 – 1 MIBR 5AM 8AM 1PM
Group C Grand Final Virtus.pro 1 – 2 OG 8AM 11AM 4PM

Sunday, November 22

Group Match PT ET GMT
Last Chance Match 1 Gen.G 1 – 2 Envy 5AM 8AM 1PM
Last Chance Match 2 Dignitas 2 – 1 forZe 8AM 11AM 4PM