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Leffen hits back at fans calling for Joker nerfs after MKLeo’s Smash Con comeback

Published: 12/Aug/2019 23:29 Updated: 13/Aug/2019 1:09

by Alan Bernal


Super Smash Bros. fans are calling for nerfs to Joker after Leonardo ‘MKLeo’ Perez’s incredible Smash Con 2019 championship run, but Melee legend Leffen definitely doesn’t agree.

Echo Fox’s MKLeo stunned the Smash community after coming back from 0-2 down in the Grand Finals to reset Ezra ‘Samsora’ Morris and take the top honors at the Dulles Expo Center with six-straight match wins using Fighter 71, Joker.

The win was eerily similar to his Evo 2019 Smash Grand Finals set against Gavin ‘Tweek’ Dempsey, where MKLeo went down 0-2 early as the Loser’s representative only to complete the perfect reverse-sweep.

NintendoJoker’s an incredible versatile character, but some think he’s due for some nerfs.

MKLeo winning the back-to-back events has fueled a ton of fans’ beliefs that Joker needs a nerf in response to the Mexican pro’s astounding late-game heroics.

But Leffen doesn’t seem to be one of those people, as the longtime pro voiced his concerns with the wave of calls for changes.

“Leo is easily the best,” Leffen said. “It will be truly sad if Joker gets nerfed and the others never get to beat this version of him.”

The 24-year-old Swede made a case to protect the integrity of the scene by recalling the various eras of domination featuring different Melee players, hinting at how the “storylines” would never exist if nerfs had intervened.

“Imagine if Fox got nerfed after I won three majors in a row in 2015,” Leffen said. “Or Peach when Armada had his streak, or Hbox last year. There can’t be any storylines if everyone just calls for nerfs instantly.”

Though there might be strong characters in the game’s state, Leffen’s argument focuses more on the player side of the issue than anything else.

NintendoEven though Joker is tricky to deal with, he gets really hard to fight against when he unleashes Arsene.

A lot of the times, crowds at sporting events get hyped because they’re seeing a player who’s failed many times before, finally pushing back against the big teams and overcome their past hurdles.

If Joker were to get balance changes in any capacity, the next person to beat MKLeo could have their victory marred by people arguing that the win only came after the character was hit with nerfs.

Previously, Smash legend Gonzalo ‘ZeRo’ Barrios touched on something similar when he called out the Smash community for their “knee-jerk reaction” to ban Ultimate’s newest character, Hero.

Super Smash Bros. players will have to wait and see if Joker ultimately gets a nerf in the next patch, as concerns loom of how powerful he can be.


4 Xbox characters who would make great Smash Ultimate fighters

Published: 24/Oct/2020 0:13

by Michael Gwilliam


With Minecraft Steve and Banjo-Kazooie now in Super Smash Bros Ultimate, it’s clear that Microsoft has a pretty good relationship with Nintendo. This begs the question: who else could we see from Xbox make the jump to Smash?

Nowadays, it seems like no character, regardless of whether they’re from an M-rated series or not is off limits for Nintendo’s flagship fighter.

The only criteria that Smash creator Sakurai has is that the character must be from a video game, which is why the likes of Goku or Iron Man haven’t received an invitation to Smash.

That all said, here are four Xbox character we want to see join Smash Ultimate at some point in the future.

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Conker could be a great Smash addition.


Rare’s anthropomorphic squirrel first made his debut in Diddy Kong Racing on the N64 and went on to star in a couple Nintendo games before Microsoft acquired the developer.

Due to Conker’s history on Nintendo, he seems like a good fit for a future Smash character, especially considering the options available for a moveset.

Conker’s Bad Fur day has the character make use of guns, chainsaws and flamethrowers meaning that his arsenal would be packed in the event he got the green light for a Smash game.

An Elder Scrolls rep would be great in Smash.


Even though Microsoft just bought Bethesda, having an Elder Scrolls rep would be a massive moment for fans of both series and why not opt for Skyrim at that point?

Players could make use of the Dragon Shout as unique abilities while still being prime for melee combat through an assortment of swords and other items.

Nintendo even has some Zelda-themed items within the Switch version of Skyrim so this crossover into Smash could make a lot of sense.

Marcus Fenix from Gears of War
Marcus could be a heavyweight DLC.

Marcus Fenix

The Gears of War protagonist may not be as iconic as the last two names on this list, but he would definitely be a colorful addition to the Smash roster.

With his chainsaws, guns and close-range kill options, Fenix would have a lot of tools at his disposal.

The most unique part is that he could end up being the first heavyweight DLC fighter and completely buck recent trends.

Many fans have wanted Doomslayer/Doomguy in Smash.

Master Chief / Doomguy

We’re going to put both of these two characters together as it’s super unlikely we ever end up getting both.

Master Chief and Doomguy would bring in some great FPS representation mixed in with their sci-fi theme.

Microsoft and Doom’s devs seem pretty keen about wanting these two in Smash, so even getting both to round out Fighters Pass Volume 2 would be a historic moment in gaming history.