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Hungrybox slams “embarrassing” prize pools for Smash Bros. Ultimate

Published: 28/Dec/2019 18:11

by Scott Robertson


One year since the release of Smash Bros. Ultimate, one of the biggest faces in Smash in Juan ‘Hungrybox’ Debiedma has gone on record to draw awareness to the “tragic” state of prize pools for professional competitions, and other pro players share his sentiments as well.

Just a year removed from the release of Smash Ultimate, and the returning sales numbers indicate that the iconic fighter franchise is in good standing heading into the next decade. When it smashed the 15 million units sold number, it earned the accolade of best-selling fighting game of all time.

But, despite all of the money Nintendo has raked in with the base game and the DLC packs they’ve sold, a very small amount has gone towards prize pools at professional Smash Ultimate tournaments.

Ultimate is Nintendo’s most sold Smash Bros. game to date.

In a piece for Nintendolife, in which pros reflected on Ultimate’s first year, several of the game’s best brought up the current prize pool situation, with one of the most beloved Smash players in Hungrybox holding nothing back.

Hungrybox called the payout for Smash Ultimate “downright embarrassing.” He also said that it’s “tragic” that the amount of money players receive is in no way comparable to the number of views and impressions that the game gets on social media and video platforms.

The same article addresses what a flagship year it was for Smash video content, on both YouTube and streaming platforms. Pro player Gonzalo ‘ZeRo’ Barrios has spent more time streaming than attending tournaments, especially after signing an exclusive contract with Facebook.

It’s easy to understand why ZeRo would put more focus on streaming when you consider the amount of money players win from tournaments. According to the pros, unless you consistently finish at the top, it’s hard to financially justify going to more events.

Samuel “Dabuz” Buzby says “Only the top [players] make enough money from events to attend more,” and described any placing below 7th as “monetarily worthless.”

Hungrybox places the majority of the blame squarely at the feet of Nintendo. They don’t sponsor a massive yearly tournament the way other competitive titles and their developers do.

ValveGabe’s appearance at the Dota 2 International is a visual representation of Valve’s support of pro Dota 2.

Using Dabuz’s notion that you’d have to finish 7th or better for participation to be financially worth it, 7th place at this past summer’s Dota 2 International netted a team $858,252, which is roughly $170,000 per player. There are two CSGO majors per year, and finishing 7th at a major earns a team $35,000. 7th place in solos at the Fortnite World Cup won $525,000.

The biggest Smash Ultimate event this year in prize money was Smash Ultimate Summit 2, with a $50k prize pool, and each of the players who came in 7th took home just over $1,500.

Other fighting games have a big blowout annual tournament, so this problem is unique to Nintendo. The Capcom Cup 2019 featured a $390k prize pool, and has put up at least $350k over the past four years. The Tekken World Tour finals for this year massively increased its pool to $250k.

CapcomThe best Street Fighter V players duked it out at the Capcom Cup, where the winner took home $250k.

“It’s the only company that really isn’t putting money into pot bonuses,” Hungrybox continued. “Even though they very easily could. We need developer support. I can’t stress this enough.”

If Nintendo continues to “sponsor” the Smash Ultimate competitive scene without injecting more cash for prize money, they may have to brave the next decade without a competitive scene altogether.


CSGO Player Ditches ENCE for Military | Richard Lewis Reacts to Sergej’s Exit

Published: 27/Nov/2020 23:58 Updated: 28/Nov/2020 3:12

by Bill Cooney


The loss of Jere “sergej” Salo to military service could be very bad news for Finnish esports org ENCE’s prospects “for the rest of their sorry existence,” according to Richard Lewis.

ENCE started out as a genuine underdog story from Finland, a region that has definitely contributed its fair share of great players to professional Counter-Strike over the years.

When Sergej joined the team at 16 he was already one of the standout players on the roster, and helped ENCE compete as one of the top teams in the world. But, the cutting of Aleksi ‘Aleksib’ Virolainen in early 2020 sent the team into a “death spiral,” according to Lewis.

“He [sergej] looks to have gone into a terminal slump, I mean he’s barely scraping a one rating on HLTV.” Lewis said. “He clearly wants out, and then you hear the news that he’s being benched with immediate effect because he wants to go do his national service in Finland and get it out of the way now.”

Finland requires 3-6 months of compulsory military service for eligible males, however, it is possible to defer or put it off if you play esports, which is what many Finnish pros do, choosing to wait to do it until later.

For sergej to want to go and complete his service at 18, after being one of the best young players in the world “tells you all you need to know about what is going on in ENCE right now,” according to Lewis.