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Smasher’s theorycraft exactly what percentage Hero’s Thwack can kill at

Published: 19/Aug/2019 21:52 Updated: 19/Aug/2019 22:31

by Alan Bernal


Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC character Hero has been at the center of much debate, and a closer analysis at his Whack/Thwack ability shows how the powerful attack can eliminate players at different percentages.

The second DLC character for the game’s Fighter Pass was met with eager anticipation when announced, but his implementation into Ultimate has gone awry as competitive players are questioning his place in the roster.

Various clips and footage shows Hero using his Command Selection that can randomly call upon the move Thwack, which can instantly kill an opponent at certain low percentages while dealing very little damage itself.

MeshimaHero can get easy kills with Thwack, but certain conditions being met makes it easier than others.

But it looks like the mystery of the K.O. percentage for Thwack is being revealed via a rigorous breakdown by Japanese Smash Researcher ‘Meshima’ after meticulously recording in-game results.

It seems as if the probability of being killed by Thwack and Whack scales with the percent of damage the opponent has. While that’s basic Smash Bros. knowledge, the interesting part lies in both how little the opponent’s percentage has to be to get a one-in-five change to kill, as well as how Hero’s percentage affects the chance of eliminating a foe with the move.

“Enemy % is fixed at 1.0% if the enemy is less than 20% (of damage),” Meshima said after looking at how the move’s effects changes at various percentages. “If the enemy% exceeds 20%, the probability increases when the enemy% increases, and the probability increases when the damage is 160% and 100%.”

MeshimaThe breakdown of Meshima’s analysis for the move.

The analyst also noted how “the chance (of killing) increases with your own percentage, + 20% at maximum 300%.”

According to the data, the opponent only needs to be at 21% for a 150% Hero to Thwack them out of existence, even if it is only an 11.71% chance.

There’s been a ton of backlash against people being allowed to pick Hero in Smash Bros. events, as these kind of odds can still marr the competitive integrity of a tournament.

Legends of the Smash scenes like William ‘Leffen’ Hjelte applauded Hero’s ban by the South Australia Smash Central organization. Meanwhile, others like Gonzalo ‘ZeRo’ Barrios insisted that the hate toward Hero is a “knee-jerk reaction” from the Smash community.

While the numbers water down opinions that Hero’s Thwack is inherently OP, it still gives weight to some people thinking the character has no place in a high stakes Smash Bros environment.


Smash Ultimate voice files hint at upcoming DLC fighter

Published: 22/Oct/2020 18:54

by Michael Gwilliam


Super Smash Bros Ultimate still has four characters yet to be announced for the Fighters Pass Volume 2, and a new theory may help narrow down their identities.

When looking at the voice files in-game, there are five empty slots. Looking back at the first Fighters Pass, after Terry Bogard’s release, there were two spots remaining, which ended up going to the male and female forms of Byleth.

Upon Steve’s release, the voice files didn’t change, suggesting that something similar could be happening with a future fighter.

As Andree123 explained on the SmashBoards forums, “there are currently 5 empty voice slots in the voice clip section of the sound test menu as of 9.0.0.”

Smash Ultimate voice files
Voice theory was first suggested prior to Byleth’s release.

“This means we are most likely getting a fighter with a different character/opposite gender alt with a different voice in the Fighters Pass vol. 2,” they added, but noted that it’s still possible we don’t end up getting one at all.

Of course, it’s actually even a possibility that another fighter ends up being just like Steve and doesn’t take up a voice file. This could eventually result in two fighters having female and male variants or even a fighter with three variants.

Really, there are a lot of different outcomes based on this theory, but the fact it has a proven record make it nothing to scoff at or dismiss.

Male and female Byleth
Many fighters have female and male variants.

If we are in fact getting a future fighter with female/male alternate costumes or maybe even two male/female voices, Resident Evil could be a good fit.

Leon S Kennedy with either Claire or Chris Redfield as an alternate costume would certainly work given the franchise’s history on Nintendo consoles.

Another option, given how Crash Bandicoot has been rumored, is that we get Coco from Crash 4: It’s About Time as an alternate costume.

Crash Bandicoot in his 4th game
Crash in Smash? It’s about time.

On the flip side, although unlikely, this could suggest there will be another DLC release after Fighters Pass Volume 2.

Only time will tell if this theory holds up, but it certainly raises some interesting questions about future downloadable content.