Shroud explains his main concern with Valorant compared to CSGO - Dexerto

Shroud explains his main concern with Valorant compared to CSGO

Published: 4/Mar/2020 11:06

by Calum Patterson


The reveal of Riot’s upcoming FPS game Valorant has caused a stir among the community, especially players from other competitive shooters. Former CS:GO professional Michael ‘shroud’ Grzesiek has reacted positively to the game, but thinks a crucial problem will prevent it from “surpassing” Counter-Strike.

Valorant is certainly aiming to take a shot at Valve’s game, which still stands as the most popular tactical FPS title on PC. Those who have played the game explain that its movement and gun mechanics are nearly identical, and it borrows the economy system.


But, Valorant also has hero-like characters, called Agents, each with their own special abilities to use in a match, similar to something like Overwatch. This is where shroud believes it may suffer to compete with CS:GO, at least on a spectatorship level.

Brimstone in Valorant.
HITSCAN (YouTube) / Riot Games
Kills count towards Signature abilities, which can turn the round’s tide in your team’s favor.

One of Counter-Strike’s strengths as an esport is its simplicity. You don’t need intricate knowledge of the game to understand the 5v5, gun vs gun action. One team attacks, one defends, and there are no unexplained superpowers taking place on the map.


A game like Overwatch, on the other hand, has been criticized for being difficult for newcomers to understand, due to the abundance of abilities, many of which are completely alien unless you’ve actually played the game.

“That’s part of the reason why I don’t know how huge [Valorant] will be on a viewing perspective,” shroud explained. “Put CS for an example, ‘flashbang goes off, ok, smoke goes off, ok, guns are being bought.’ Here, it’s like another level; guns are being bought, abilities are being bought, utilities being bought, and, characters do stuff.”

“So, I don’t know if this game can surpass CS, but, I think it’ll be successful,” the former Cloud9 pro continued. “The fact that there are so many questions will make it a harder viewing experience than Counter-Strike – Counter-Strike is easy.”


Shroud did also compliment Valorant too, though, saying he was particularly fond of the map design. However, he also thought that their choice of footage for the reveal could have been better. By having raw gameplay, rather than an edited teaser, he believes they may have made it look worse.

He also acknowledged that not many people watch esports for a game they have never played, meaning his concerns about not being able to understand abilities may not be such a major issue.


Nadeshot frustrated as ESL shut down his restream of CSGO finals

Published: 19/Oct/2020 0:49 Updated: 19/Oct/2020 11:59

by Theo Salaun


Ahead of 100 Thieves’ announced departure from Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Mathew ‘Nadeshot’ Haag came under a bit of fire for disinterest in his org’s finals match at IEM New York and, subsequently, admonished by ESL for streaming the event.

Nadeshot came home to Los Angeles after 12 hours of travel and was excited to stream some of the Black Ops Cold War open beta for the first time, but, as the stream started, he also mentioned that he wouldn’t be responding to chat as much as usual because 100T was facing Furia in the IEM New York Grand Finals.


Unfortunately, some found it disappointing that the organization’s founder would multitask and play another game during his team’s final CS:GO match ever, with former pro Chad ‘SPUNJ’ Burchill even calling him out.

With people like SPUNJ discrediting Nade’s loyalty to his team and Black Ops Cold War coincidentally crashing, the 100T CEO attempted to switch over to the big match. But, in another string of disappointments, that idea wasn’t meant to be either.


After trying to watch the Grand Finals with about 13,000 viewers, Nade received word that this re-stream was against ESL guidelines and that he was not allowed to do so.

Frustratedly, he returned to his initial Black Ops Cold War plans and expressed some understanding, as well as disappointment with the tournament organizers’ decision.

“At the end of the day, I get it from a business perspective on ESL’s standpoint,” Nadeshot said. “I mean, they pay for broadcast rights and they’re putting on this tournament and all these things.


But, from my perspective, I have all of their sponsors and broadcast assets on my stream … I’m essentially just on a soapbox right now, blasting the stream but with just 12-13,000 more viewers.”

As he explained on stream, by putting the stream on full screen without any of his brandings, he felt that he was just giving the official broadcast more exposure. But, ultimately, he understands why the decision was made.

In a later clip, following his return to streaming BOCW, the 100T head honcho added further clarification.


While affirming that he fully understands why he wasn’t allowed to re-stream the event and that he respects ESL’s business decisions, he felt that this situation was unique and could have been handled differently: “Well, I got your logos up here, I’ve got none of my sponsors up here. Can’t we just make an exception?”

First criticized for not giving his team’s play enough attention and then reprimanded for giving it too much attention, this wasn’t one of Nadeshot’s more fortunate streams. Still, he understands why ESL came down on him and, perhaps more importantly, he did eventually get to play BOCW without his PC crashing.