CS:GO Commentator Moses Discusses the Best Route to Becoming a Pro Player: "[CS:GO's] equivalent of college sports" - Dexerto

CS:GO Commentator Moses Discusses the Best Route to Becoming a Pro Player: “[CS:GO’s] equivalent of college sports”

Published: 4/May/2018 10:27 Updated: 11/Mar/2019 12:48

by Ross Deason


Counter-Strike: Global Offensive analyst and commentator Jason ‘moses’ O’Toole has shared his thoughts on the likes of FPL and Rank S, stating that he believes they are now the best pipeline into the professional scene.

FPL (FACEIT Pro League) and ESEA’s Rank S are the highest levels of PUG matches that you can play in CS:GO and have become a place where virtually all top players hone their skills in a more relaxed environment to their team practice.

But just how important are they when it comes to discovering new up-and-coming talent? When you consider the fact that players like FaZe Clan’s Nikola ‘NiKo’ Kovač, SK Gaming’s Jake ‘Stewie2K’ Yip, and Mousesports’ Robin ‘ropz’ Kool all got their big breaks due to their performance in PUGs, it seems like the answer is “very”.

During a recent debate on Twitter, CS:GO commentator Roy ‘StrongLegs’ Ahad told former Torqued player Ricky ‘floppy’ Kemery that he believes up-and-coming should concentrate more on finding a spot on an MDL team and proving themselves there than in FPL or Rank S.

FACEIT’s Milos ‘Mikey’ Nedeljkovic eventually responded to the thread, pointing out that most teams that have taken a risk on FPL or Rank S prodigies have seen more success than teams who tried to recycle old talent endlessly.

Moses, a former professional CS 1.6 player and current commentator and analyst for CS:GO, then threw his hat into the ring, saying that he believes players with a strong work ethic and good attitude will do better from FPL/Rank S than they will from playing with lower level teams in lower divisions.

He went on to explain that he sees FPL and Rank S as CS:GO’s equivalent to college sports and said that they are now the “best and most effective way into pro divisions”, citing poor scouting and talent development from top teams as one of the reasons.

The discussion is certainly an interesting one and it could go around in circles for an age but recent history would certainly favor moses’ opinion on the matter.

Of course, StrongLegs’ argument that players cannot wait around forever and should be able to balance playing for a lower level team while also grinding out Rank S or FPL matches is certainly a valid one.

The start of the Twitter thread, and all of the replies discussed in this article, can be found here.


ForZe under fire for signing CSGO coach implicated in cheating scandal

Published: 24/Oct/2020 21:30

by Alan Bernal


Russian esports org forZe are facing backlash for signing former Hard Legion coach Aleksandr ‘zoneR⁠’ Bogatiryev, who was banned by ESL for abusing a coaching bug that was found to compromise competitive CS:GO matches.

After the initial wave of backlash, forZe clarified that zoneR was brought on for a “testing coach period” to the ‘forZe School,’ a project that teaches and develops emerging CSGO talent. They do not recognize the forZe School as an academy team and said its not affiliated with the main roster.

“Zoner has made a big shameful mistake but we’ve decided to give him a second chance as he’s still a well-experienced coach,” forZe wrote in a statement. His work with the school will be conducted under supervision with the team’s management.

Despite org CEO Sergey ‘MegioN’ Ignatko’s optimism for the signing, debacles within the CSGO competitive landscape in the last year created a perfect storm for doubt on the deal.

“Not the smartest brand development choice, forZe have a lot of lovable characters and their storyline is exciting,” esports host and commentator Alex ‘MACHINE’ Richardson said. “Would be a shame to see an ill-thought out decision damage their reputation or fan base.”

Moreover, people are concerned that the org would position young, impressionable players to work with a person who was found cheating.

“This has to be a joke, right?” FaZe Clan coach Janko ‘YNk’ Paunovic said. “The most blatant cheater in coaching is supposed to set an example for young players? My mind is blown, absolutely disgraceful from forZe.”

On September 1, Hard Legion announced they were parting ways with zoneR, who went by the in-game name ‘MechanoGun’ at the time, following ESL’s decision to ban him as well as two other coaches after an investigation found them guilty of using a coach’s spectating bug.

ESIC csgo coach bug ban
ZoneR, listed here as ‘MechanoGun,’ was given a 36-month ban after ESIC found 16 cases of using the coaching bug.

It was initially decided that zoneR would be banned for 24 months from playing or coaching in ESL or DreamHack events. ESL later upgraded his ban to 36 months after the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC) concluded their investigation of the bug’s abuse.

Of the 37 CSGO coaches found cheating, zoneR’s three-year ban was the longest penalty issued by far. He was found of using the bug in 16 cases, and had “Tier 1 Aggravated” sanctions levied against him.

This comes at a sensitive time for the CSGO community, who have been anxiously awaiting any further reaction from Valve on the coaching scandal. Some are worried the publisher might create bigger consequences or tweak team structures to prevent it from happening again in the future.

“If Valve removes coaching it’ll be because of some BULL**** like this,” CSGO commentator and BOXR CEO, Mohan ‘launders’ Govindasamy, said.

A similar concern sprouted when CSGO teams whose coaches were implicated in ESIC’s findings were simply demoted from the position to an analyst role; thereby using a loophole to keep working with the team.

ForZe will monitor their partnership with zoneR for the time being, but said they could part ways with him after the testing phase for his position has concluded.