Shroud reveals one of the main reasons he's lost viewers on Mixer - Dexerto

Shroud reveals one of the main reasons he’s lost viewers on Mixer

Published: 27/Dec/2019 11:59 Updated: 27/Dec/2019 20:46

by Calum Patterson


His move to Mixer was major news in streaming, but Michael ‘shroud‘ Grzesiek has revealed that he has lost some fans who are unaware of his departure from Twitch, instead, assuming that he just quit streaming for good.

Until late 2019, Twitch held somewhat of a monopoly on streaming, with only YouTube as a primary rival for viewers’ attention. Shroud, as the third most followed channel on the platform, was known as a Twitch streamer first and foremost, since his retirement from professional CS:GO.

His fanbase grew exponentially on the platform, but he took a chance on rival platform Mixer in October, leaving his Twitch channel and its 7 million+ followers behind for a fresh start.

Instagram: @shroudShroud left Twitch for Mixer in October 2019.

Although there have been positives, the downsides of this transition have also been clear to see, particularly the decline in viewership. This can be partially put down to his choice of game (shroud has played a lot of ‘Escape from Tarkov’ on Mixer, a less popular title), but he has revealed another potential reason for the loss of viewership.

When a fan asked if platforms like Mixer might start handing out ’10 day contracts’ as testers, like the NBA, shroud explained why this couldn’t work in streaming.

“You can’t really test streams out, because even to this day, people have no idea that I’m on Mixer,” he responded, “there’s so many people who just thought I quit streaming. They just don’t know.”

He even said that some fans are so behind that they still think he’s a member of Cloud9, the esports organization he formerly represented as a professional player and streamer, and some even think he still lives in a team house.

This confusion likely stems from the fact that Twitch has long existed as it’s own social media website in its own right. Despite publicizing his move on Twitter and YouTube, his following on both of these platforms is not even half of what his total following was on Twitch.

So, there are potentially millions of shroud fans who are completely unaware that he moved platform, and are simply waiting in ignorant bliss for his return stream on Twitch, if it ever comes.

Of course, shroud undoubtedly factored this into his decision to leave the platform, which has resulted in losing around 2/3rds of his total viewership in the month he moved, compared the previous month on Twitch.

However, a report from Bloomberg has estimated that both shroud and Ninja could now be on contracts worth between $8 million and $13 million a year, so there are pluses and minuses, to say the least.


Pokimane denies new Fedmyster claims, says he sent “admission of guilt”

Published: 26/Nov/2020 2:27 Updated: 26/Nov/2020 3:48

by Isaac McIntyre


Imane ‘Pokimane’ Anys has hit back at claims made by former OfflineTV streamer Federico ‘Fedmyster’ Gaytan in a leaked exposé document, and revealed the disgraced Twitch star sent her what she believes is an “admission of guilt.”

Earlier this year, the OfflineTV house was rocked by accusations of harassment and misconduct leveled at former editor-turned-personality Fedmyster.

Several members of the Twitch content group, including Lilypichu and Yvonne, detailed how Gaytan would “come to [their] room, drunk” and “massage [their] feet and thighs.” Yvonne also revealed he had “crawled in bed” with her, kissed her cheek, and put his hand up her shirt.

These accusations were compounded when Pokimane claimed Fed had been a “big reason” why she moved out of the house. Fedmyster was subsequently expelled from the OfflineTV house, and removed from the company.

After months of silence from the Twitch streamer, a document leaked online on Nov. 24, which mainly detailed Fed’s relationship with Pokimane. In the unreleased exposé titled “My Truth”, which Dexerto has read copies of, Gaytan, 25, accused Pokimane of “twisting the truth” about their relationship.

Pokimane has now hit back, speaking about the leaked document in a short Twitch stream on Wednesday. In her response, she suggests Fedmyster sent her an “admission of guilt” in regards to his “manipulative” actions.

fedmyster and pokimane
Instagram: Fedmyster
Fedmyster’s leaked doc, “My Truth,” mainly revolves around his relationship with Pokimane.

Fedmyster allegedly sent Pokimane “admission of guilt”

Anys, who admitted she’s already seen several versions of the Fedmyster document, doubled down on her previous June 29 claims. According to the Twitch star, Fed’s claim to a potential hookup, Steve, that they were “a thing” was the best example of his manipulation.

“I want to make it clear that, to me, this incident [with Steve] was clearly a mess-up on Fed’s part. I confronted Fed, he apologized… he admitted fault,” she said.

Pokimane revealed she messaged Fedmyster ahead of her ‘tell-all’ stream in June, asking if there was anything she “should maybe leave out.” When Gaytan requested she skip over the incident with Steve at the party, however, she refused.

“He said ‘if you can… leave out the Steve stuff, it’s something I wouldn’t like mentioned.’ I couldn’t leave that out. He asked me not to mention it, and I think that’s an admission of guilt, then later he says ‘that’s not how it went down’.”

Pokimane says Fed’s claims ‘overshadow’ real issue

The problem, she continued, is that Fed has focused on her being a “villain” and leading him on in the leaked document. This focus, which she believes “blows everything out of proportion,” is being used to overshadow the actual OfflineTV accusations.

“Essentially we had trouble being close but managing our friendship, knowing he wanted more, but I always felt I was upfront about it… it really bothers me that in this document he tried to make me out as the bad guy,” Pokimane said.

“Obviously we weren’t on the same page. I hope you guys can see this from my perspective… I didn’t see a future between the two of us. I thought I was always honest. Looking back, I should have been more aware of how I acted around him, but hindsight is 20/20!

“To me, in all honesty, all of this is just not important. It’s regular 20-year-old relationship bullsh*t. What I shared about the situation is my honest truth, and it’s totally irrelevant to the actual incidents that triggered all of this.”

Fedmyster says he “stands by document”

Fedmyster has addressed the leaked document too; according to the disgraced Twitch star, he had no plans to release the exposé, because it felt like “airing dirty laundry.”

“[Poki and I] came to agree that keeping things private and making no further statements publicly was what was best for us…We wanted to heal and prevent any further harm to the people involved,” he explained in a short Twitter post.

“On the topic of whether I tried to manipulate our friends to hate her, I still fully stand behind what my document reads but I want to emphasize that it wasn’t my intention to shine Poki in a bad light… I am deeply sorry, and wish I wasn’t so naive and insensitive.”

Fedmyster also said he “still believes [he] was mischaracterized,” but added “after talking to Poki I came to understand her perspective. My outlook on the situation as a whole now comes from a better place of understanding.”

Hours after finishing her stream, Anys took to her second Twitter account, where she said she was “looking forward to moving on” from the whole situation.

“Sorry, td was tough, it’s hard for me to reply to v private things without making the situation messier + I was not in a good headspace,” she wrote. “ty to those that were understanding. looking forward to moving on.”

Yvonne and Lilypichu, who were the first to level harassment allegations against Fedmyster, have not yet publicly addressed the leaked document.