PhantomL0rd Threatens to Sue LivestreamFail Reddit Mods After He's Accused of Owning Another Skin Gambling Site - Dexerto

PhantomL0rd Threatens to Sue LivestreamFail Reddit Mods After He’s Accused of Owning Another Skin Gambling Site

Published: 5/Jul/2018 15:20 Updated: 14/Oct/2020 17:28

by Calum Patterson


Infamous streamer and YouTuber James “PhantomL0rd” Varga has threatened to sue the mods of popular sub Reddit ‘LivestreamFail’, after a post which accused he and his former partner of ‘scamming’.

PhantomL0rd was previously a very popular Twitch streamer before he was banned from the platform, largely due to his involvement in a CS:GO skins gambling website, which he would promote via his streams.

It was later exposed that he had been rigging certain wagers in his favor, encouraging his viewers to play on the site which he was part owner of.

He is currently embroiled in a legal case against Amazon (owner of Twitch) itself, but has now threatened more litigious action against another major site, Reddit.

A new skins gambling website named ‘VGO’, which PhantomL0rd is accused of not disclosing ownership in, was recently promoted on stream by his former partner ‘Dinglederper’.

A clip of this was posted to LivestreamFail with the title “Dinglederper back to scamming with phantoml0rd“. After seeing the post, PhantomL0rd sent the following message to the moderators of the sub reddit.

PhantomL0rd is accusing the moderators of the sub Reddit for being responsible for ‘harassment’ which is not permitted according to the Reddit terms of service.

However, the moderators of LiveStreamFail responded publicly to PhantomL0rd, in an open letter posted to the sub Reddit, explaining that the post did not qualify as harassment as outlined by the terms of service.

Considering PhantomL0rd did not accuse the post of being libellous, it also suggests that the claim of ‘scamming’ is not necessarily a false one, else a case of defamation or libel would have been more suitable.

The response from LiveStreamFail in full:

Phantoml0rd threatening legal action against the mods of this subreddit from r/LivestreamFail

Since Reddit admins have not notified the moderators of an issue with the original post, it seems PhantomL0rd’s grievance, should he want to pursue it further, would now lie with Reddit itself since it is satisfied that the post does not break the rules of the TOS.

However, considering his ongoing legal debacle with Amazon, it would be somewhat impressive if he was willing to take on both internet giants at once.


Dream responds to #dreamwaswrong trending on Twitter

Published: 22/Jan/2021 21:53

by Theo Salaun


YouTuber and Minecraft content creator Dream has finally responded to the #dreamwaswrong trend on Twitter, using his DreamWasTaken account to assert he disavows the behavior displayed by some of his fans.

Dream and his cohorts, including known creators like Tommyinnit and GeorgeNotFound, are incredibly popular on YouTube and beyond thanks to an infinitum of Dream Team videos and the Dream SMP server.

While that level of fame means possibility for mainstream collaboration with the likes of superstar TikTok influencer Addison Rae, it also comes with downsides. Notably, #dreamwaswrong began trending on Twitter as fans blamed Dream for encouraging his stans, some of whom are prone to producing inappropriate fan art involving minors.

As critics explain, Dream’s love for his fans supposedly equates to egging on the ways they express their fandom — thereby supporting the production of “CP.” In response, he explained: “I’ve said this before but don’t ship creators that are uncomfortable with it, and especially not minors. It’s disgusting to draw NSFW stuff about minors or anyone that hasn’t explicitly said it’s fine.”

After addressing the drama directly, by reaffirming that “NSFW stuff about minors” is distasteful, Dream continued on to explain why it’s unfair to misgeneralize his role in the production of such content.

In a follow-up tweet aimed at defending his support for his fans, the Minecraft YouTuber said, “With 16 million subscribers that’s 1 out of every 480 people IN THE WORLD that are subscribed. There’s bound to be thousands of terrible people, but there’s also bound to be millions of great ones. If you’re looking for hate or disgusting stuff, you’ll find it. Stop looking.”

As he shows, boasting 16 million subscribers on YouTube means that “out of every 480 people in the world,” at least one is a fan of Dream’s content. That is an enormous quantity of supporters, and it should not be surprising that there are “thousands of terrible people” within the millions of fans.

This sentiment appears to be echoed by his fans — as many have resurfaced earlier videos showing that the content creator has never specifically encouraged the creation of relationship fanfiction or “CP.”

It remains unclear how satisfied people are with Dream’s response, but the overall sentiment appears to be positive. While it feels unreasonable to expect a creator to be wholly responsible for the actions of their audience, this incident does provide a cautionary tale.

Considering this “disgusting” group of Dream’s stans, the prevailing community critique remains: If you are an influencer, you have some obligation to directly and quickly curtail negative behavior by those you influence.