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Shroud claims controversial Pathfinder nerf balances him in Apex Legends

Published: 14/May/2020 15:17 Updated: 18/May/2020 12:46

by Calum Patterson


Many Pathfinder mains were bitterly disappointed to see their favorite robot receive such a severe nerf in the Apex Legends Season 5 update, but top streamer Michael ‘shroud’ Grzesiek believes it was the correct move as it will balance out his abilities with similar characters.

Shroud was one of the select few content creators to help Respawn in the development of Apex, and has returned to it for each new season to check out the changes. His fans and fans of Apex alike are always eager to hear the former professional CS:GO player give his verdict on the updates.

This time, there is no change more controversial than the Pathfinder nerf, which saw his tactical, Grappling Hook, given a hefty cooldown increase, significantly hampering his mobility.

Pathfinder using grapple in Apex Legends
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Pathfinder is no longer able to grapple around as often.

With this nerf, Pathfinder must wait a whopping 35 seconds before using his grappling hook again, an increase of 20 seconds over the previous 15s cooldown.

The ability is similar to Wraith’s Into the Void or Loba’s Burglar’s best friend, which both allow for quick escapes from trouble when in a gunfight.

Pathfinder now in-line with other Legends

Shroud explains that this is likely the reason Respawn chose to nerf Pathfinder’s grapple, as it brings him more in-line with the cooldowns of other Legends.

“I think it’s mainly because Loba and Wraith’s [cooldowns] are pretty high. They’re supposed to act the same, like you probably only get one of these [abilities] in a fight, but with Pathfinder you could get away with like two,” shroud explained during his May 13 Mixer stream.

Shroud argues that each legend should only be able to use their ‘escape’ ability once per fight, and having only a 15 second cooldown was allowing Pathfinder to use his grapple much more than once per fight.

Compared to the other Legends with similar abilities, this was much stronger, and led to Pathfinder becoming arguably the best character to use in the game overall. His advanced movement was not only unrivaled by other Legends, but also was available more frequently.

Revenant was another character intended to have incredibly advanced movement when he was added to the game, but players soon found he was no match for Pathfinder.

Of course, as Shroud’s teammate notes, it’s possible for Respawn to make adjustments to the cooldown if it really is too long, and bring Pathy back up to speed.

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Respawn Senior Game Designer wants more “non-BR” modes in Apex Legends

Published: 28/Nov/2020 22:31

by Alan Bernal


Respawn Senior Game Designer Daniel Z. Klein is a big fan of Apex Legends’ non-BR modes, and would want the studio to experiment with a few more concepts after seeing how successful the Winter Express has been.

Admittedly, Klein isn’t a part of the game modes team at Respawn, but the senior developer gave his preference on which direction the battle royale could take from here. Previous modes like Hunt and the Winter Express tweaked Apex’s typical formula, giving players something different to get their hands on.

The team at Respawn has proven they can make modes that don’t feed into the normal BR format but still create products that resonate with their players. Klein would like to see more of this out of Apex in the following seasons, though has said there’s not much to reveal on that front as of yet.

“I really want us to try more non-BR things; I think Winter Express was a wonderful proof of concept that Apex can be super fun in non-BR modes,” he said on Reddit. “I think something Mario Party-like, like (League of Legends’) Nexus Blitz, would probably be a bit too much for a game like Apex, but there are LOTS of cool things we could do.”

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He isn’t wrong on that final point. Aside from being a solid battle royale in the bustling genre, Apex Legends has something unique that not many games can boast about: it’s incredible characters.

Respawn have injected a vast amount of lore and personality into their cast of 15 Legends, meaning they can produce nearly any mode they want without struggling with how it logistically fits into the game.

We kind of got a taste of that type of ingenuity with the Fight or Fright Collection Event, that showed Pathfinder teleporting into a night version of Kings Canyon which introduced the Shadowfall mode.

Now that there’s vehicles and loads of new gameplay mechanics in Season 7, non-BR modes like races, new PvE concepts, and more can be a frontrunner for possibilities to explore.

Like Klein said, there isn’t anything Respawn are ready to announce for Apex Legends as of yet, but players have loads of content to hold them over until they do.